The poster for the exhibit |
By Lalo Alcaraz |
By Jaime Crespo |
The poster for the exhibit |
By Lalo Alcaraz |
By Jaime Crespo |
From left: W.J.T. Mitchell and Spiegelman |
From left: Chute, Burns, Clowes, Seth, and Ware |
Comics: Philosophy and Practice Auditorium |
Leaving Argentina and all my friends in the comics community was quite painful. I spent the past year getting to know exciting people, learning about their lives and reading works that they’ve spent time and energy creating. When I started going to events last April, I didn’t know anyone, but the crowd was friendly and eventually I had a network of acquaintances. I wouldn’t have traded this sense of community for anything in the world. But, wait, I did. I left Argentina for the United States.
I went to the Chicago Zine Fest this past weekend and realized that I am exactly where I was last year, but this time I’m in Chicago. Zinesters (or fanzineros) have an intricate, interwoven community that I know absolutely nothing about. At first glance, most people seem pretty friendly, but probably have relationships that began years ago when they were angsty teenagers, eager to write. Do I feel discouraged, starting from square one? I still have my researcher status because I’ve been working on a report for Viñetas Series comparing income sources for Argentine and American comics creators. I do honestly want to learn about how the Chicago comics scene works. My impressions so far are favorable. Unlike in Argentina, there is a large female presence. One reason given for this is that in mainstream media there is a lack of publishing by and about women. Self-publishing offers an opportunity to people not given a voice by conventional publishing companies. Along this note, there was also a large queer community. It’s quite different from the Argentine comics community.
I started by talking with people who have done exciting things in the Chicago zine scene. Anne Elizabeth Moore, a decades-long zine creator, academic, and former Fulbright recipient, participated in an interesting talk about gender, race, and sexuality in zine culture. I spoke with her afterwards about fanzine culture in Argentina in the 90’s and later bought her book about her Fulbright teaching Indonesian women how to create zines. Sarah Becan hosted one of the workshops I attended and presented about her experiences publishing a compilation of her zines through Kickstarter. Kikstarter is a “funding platform for creative projects.” Basically, you submit a proposal and random people on the Internet send you money if they like the project. It is an alternative way of self-publishing comics that otherwise would not be able to exist. In terms of my research, Kickstarter offers a new opportunity for artists seeking to be published.
Zine Fest came at a moment when I was greatly missing Argentina. Even though I don’t know anyone and have to start over, I’m glad there is something in Chicago I can look forward to and enjoy.
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Charla y proyección a cargo de Claire Denton Spalding
En el Muelle Flotante* de
La Dársena_Plataforma de Pensamiento e Interacción Artística
presentamos el jueves 22 de febrero de 2012, a las 19:30 hrs a:
la investigadora norteamericana Claire Denton Spalding
Claire Denton-Spalding ha pasado un año en Argentina con una beca Fulbright estudiando la historieta argentina desde un punto de vista económico. Ha asistido numerosos congresos de la historieta y entrevistado a 30 guionistas, dibujantes, periodistas, editores independientes y dueños de comiquerías no sólo en Buenos Aires, sino también en Córdoba y la Patagonia.
Claire hablará y proyectará sus experiencias y los hallazgos de su investigación en Plataforma La Dársena. También será una forma de despedirse hasta el año que viene, ya que Claire regresa a Chicago a fines de febrero.
http://thepapertigress.
*El Muelle Flotante es el lugar de Plataforma La Dársena para la cooperación artística, el diálogo, la difusión y las presentaciones de artistas y asociaciones locales e internacionales. Está abierto a recepción de proyectos (presentaciones de libros, videoproyecciones, charlas) y funciona también por invitación.
Miércoles 22, 19:30 hrs. Entrada gratuita.
La Dársena_Plataforma de de Pensamiento e Interacción Artística
Mario Bravo 298, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Dirección: Azul Blaseotto y Eduardo Molinari
plataformaladarsena.blogspot.
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An economic perspective on contemporary argentinian comic
Screening and talk and with Claire Denton Spalding
On the FLOATING QUAY * of
La Dársena_Plataforma de Pensamiento e Interacción Artística
The Dock_Platform of Thinking and Artistic Interaction
we present on tuesday the 22.th of february at 19:30
the northamerican comic searcher Claire Denton Spalding
Claire Denton-Spalding spent the past year studying the economic aspects of the Argentine comic with a Fulbright Grant. She has attended numerous comics conferences and conducted interviews with thirty writers, artists, journalists, independent publishers, and comic store owners from not only Buenos Aires, but Córdoba and Patagonia as well. On February 22nd, she will present her experiences and findings at La Dársena Platform. It will also be a way of saying goodbye until next year because Claire will be returning to Chicago at the end of February.
On the Floating Quay Claire D-S will present a summary of her investigation in Argentina, whose name is the title of this show.
*The Floating Quay is a permanent section of La Dársena: the place for artistic cooperation, dialogue, diffusion, and presentations by local and international artists and organizations. Floating Quay Works by invitation, but is also open to receiving projects (book presentations, videoprojections, talks).
+ about Claire: http://thepapertigress.
Wednesday 22th. february at 19:30 hrs. Free entrance
La Dársena_Plataforma de de Pensamiento e Interacción Artística
Mario Bravo 298, Buenos Aires, Argentina
plataformaladarsena.blogspot.
The Dock_Platform of Thinking and Artistic Interaction
is a cultural and activist space, a dialogic-critical tool in Buenos Aires. Here we develope collective processual practices of contemporary art and thought in context. We create transdiciplinary networks, pedagogical projects and art methods based researchs. We realize non-profit activities, based on solidarity and reciprocity, looking for more cultural biodiversity, social incidence and communitarian Buen Vivir / Good Living. We encourage the continued blurring of aesthetic and political borders, the expansion of glocal debate and dialogue.
Y vos empezaste a ser parte de esos eventos.
Yo me venía de Mar del Plata con un bolso con revistitas, y empiezo a conocer a Lucas Varela, a Salvador Sanz, empiezo a conocer al grupo de fanzineros. En Fantabaires, que era una especie de evento muy comercial, pero que tenía autores muy copados, había charlas, proyecciones, vino José Muñoz, Neil Gaiman, fue todo muy groso que se hicieran en Argentina esos eventos. Y de todos los stands comerciales, estaba el stand de los fanzines que todos pagábamos entre todos, estaban todas las revistitas, y ahí se armó como una comunidad. Se ganó un espacio. Yo venía desde Mar del Plata y fue todo un aprendizaje ver como todos dibujaban y jugaban a ser editores, y paralelamente uno trataba de dejar muestras de trabajos en editoriales para chicos, de manuales escolares, en revistas de cualquier cosa, y empiezan a aparecer trabajos muy chiquititos. Pero empiezo a trabajar con más regularidad en noviembre del 2005, cuando empiezo a laburar con el Suplemento No del diario Página 12, con continuidad en un diario grande de distribución nacional. Todos los jueves desde entonces. Empiezo a colaborar con la revista Genios haciendo juegos, pasatiempos, láminas, la historieta con Trillo y Maicas. Ahí es la primera vez que soy dibujante en un proyecto que no escribo.
Y todo empezó a ocurrir los últimos cinco años.
Claro, empiezan a aparecer después de remarla durante diez años con fanzines, de venir con el bolsito en el tren desde Mar del Plata, de dejar muestras, viviendo de lo que se podía, porque en un momento las cosas se acomodan y empezás a recoger los frutos de un montón de años… y sale lo de Genios, lo de Página 12, empiezo a colaborar en revistas como La Mano que fue muy importante durante un tiempo, después aparece la nueva versión de la Fierro en el 2006, empiezan a aparecer algunos trabajitos de publicidad, algunas cositas en algunas revistas más importantes, después aparece la Rolling Stone, fue todo apareciendo todo en un in crescendo, ahí se va armando una cosa más profesional de medios más grandes que se mantienen hasta hoy.
And you began to take part in these events?
I came from Mar del Plata with a bag of little magazines. I began to meet people like Lucas Varela, Salvador Sanz, the groups making fanzines. In Fantabaires, a very commercial event that had cool artists, there were talks, projections, stands. José Muñoz and Neil Gaiman came. It was pretty awesome that they hosted these events in Argentina. There was a fanzine stand that we paid for as a group where we displayed our magazines. We formed a community there. We earned a space. It was a learning experience to see how everyone else drew and played at being editors. At the same time, one tried to leave samples of one’s work at publishers of children’s books, schoolbook publishers, and any sort of magazine. And from this effort, I began to get small jobs.
I began working with more regularity in November 2005, when I began at the nationally distributed newspaper Página 12 working on the supplement “No” every Thursday. I began to collaborate with the magazine Genios creating games, puzzles, prints, and a comic with Carlos Trillo and Eduardo Maicas. That was the first time I was an illustrator for a project I didn’t write.
And all of this began happening in the last five years?
Of course. These opportunities began to appear after ten years of publishing my own fanzines, of bringing bags of comics on the train from Mar del Plata, leaving samples, living on what I could. In a second things accommodate and you begin to pick the fruit of many years. I got the job with Genios, Página 12; I began to collaborate with magazines like La Mano (which was very important for a time); then came the new version of Fierro in 2006; a few advertising jobs; small things in a few of the most important magazines like Rolling Stone. Everything appeared in crescendo, organizing into a more professional career with bigger media that has continued to this day.
¿Cómo fueron los pasos para formar esa carrera?
Yo vivo en Mar del Plata, que está a 400 kilómetros de Buenos Aires que si bien está relativamente cerca -cinco horas de micro-, está lejos de toda la situación editorial, y las grandes revistas y todos los medios que ya desde los 90´s, cuando no había internet, se complicaba más la distancia. Y bueno, como el cien por cien de los dibujantes empecé como lector. Leyendo y comprando, y en un momento uno especula con la posibilidad de estar absorbidos por otros o de hacer vos las historietas que querés, y empezás haciendo tus propios personajes y copiando. Y cuando vas copiando, vas resolviendo lo que te da el cuero y durante muchos años viví con mis viejos laburando de lo que podía mientras dibujaba. Y trataba de hacer las cosas muy en el under, muy de hobby. En el 96 hice una revistita fotocopiada, un fanzine autoeditado que se llamaba Falsa Modestia, donde ya estaba el humor inspirado por la revista Mad, o por dibujos como Ren & Stimpy y por toda una generación de cosas que eran más de sátira. Acá hubo una revista que fue muy determinante en influyente que se llamó Suélteme, una revista que estaba a mitad de camino entre el fanzine y la revista profesional, porque era una revista editada por una lista de autores ya consagrados en el humor de los 90s como Esteban Podetti, Diego Parés, Dani the O, Pablo Sapia, Darío Adanti. Hicieron una revista que tuvo una circulación por kioscos, pero estaba editada por ellos mismos, o sea que era una cosa de absoluta irregularidad, salieron cinco números pero fue una joya esa revista. Yo no llegué a publicar, pero era fanático de esa revista. En Suélteme publicó Liniers por primera vez, antes de firmar como Liniers. El también era fanático de una revista que lideró una escena, cuando no había ninguna revista grande a la que uno pudiera aspirar a publicar. Hoy es completamente diferente la situación. Estoy hablando del año 96, 97. Al no haber ninguna Fierro, ninguna Skorpio, un montón de autores en el país empezaron a hacer nuestras propias revistitas. Y ahí Salvador Sanz, Lucas Varela, Fede Pazos, Ángel Mosquito, Agrimbau, Rovella, un montón de tipos que ahora son importantes, todos al mismo tiempo empezamos a hacer revistitas y empezaron a haber eventos de historietas.
What were the steps that you took to form your career?
I live in Mar del Plata, 400 kilometers from Buenos Aires. While it’s relatively close (five hours by bus), it’s far from the publishing scene and the big magazines and all the media. In the 90’s, when there wasn’t Internet, the distance was more difficult. I began as a reader, like 100% of illustrators. Buying and reading, and in a moment one thinks about the possibility of being absorbed by others or making the comics you want, and you start making your own characters and copying. And when you’re copying, you go along finding out what gives it live. For many years I lived with my parents, working what I could while I drew. I tried to do things with an underground, hobby-like style. In 1996 I made a photocopied magazine, a self-published fanzine called Falsa Modestia whose humor was inspired by Mad Magazine, drawings like Ren and Stimpy, and a generation’s worth of things that were satire.
There was a very influential magazine called Suélteme that was halfway between a fanzine and a professional magazine. It was published by a list of 90’s humor gods, like Esteban Podetti, Diego Parés, Dani the O, Pablo Sapia, Darío Adanti. They made a magazine that was circulated in kiosks, but it was self-published by that group. I mean, it was a complete anomaly. Only five issues came out, but the magazine was a jem. I didn’t get to publish, but I was fanatical about the magazine. Liniers published in that magazine for the first time, before signing as “Liniers.” He was also a fan of the magazine that led a scene, when there were no big magazines where one could aspire to publish. Today the situation is completely different. I’m talking about ’96, ’97. Because there was no Fierro, no Skorpio, a bunch of authors in Argentina began to make their own magazine. And from there Salvador Sanz, Lucas Varela, Fede Pazos, Ángel Mosquito, Agrimbau, Rovella, a bunch of guys that are now important, all at the same time began to make small magazine and events around comics began to happen.
After deliberating for a few weeks, I’ve decided to post another set of interviews, this time with Gustavo Sala. Although I’ve done a bunch of awesome interviews, Sala’s was extremely relevant to my project (also ONLY 9 pages long!). This interview was conducted on September 28, 2011. I began by explaining my project, then Sala responded generally:
Gustavo Sala: I’ve been lucky enough to make a living off of comics as well as graphic humor. I don’t consider myself as much a comics artist as a graphic humorist because the majority of my work has to do with comic strips, small format comics, vignettes. Even though I’ve done comics of no more than three or four pages, the longer format is hard for me. But I can make a living off of drawing, adding up a bunch of small jobs that make up something like a salary. It allows me to pay the rent, move around, eat and go on some trips. The majority of trips are by invitation and I don’t pay for the passage, so I can go on these trips more easily. That’s good news. Drawing is my job, and it’s pretty flexible, because between jobs I can collaborate with friends or independent magazines or other things, maintaining the formal publications that allow me to live and have projects on the side. Genios magazine for kids, Rolling Stone, Fierro, Barcelona, Página 12 (for six years)— together, all of these jobs provides a living, but only while I keep all of them. From next month onward, I’m going to have a humor page in the erotic magazine Hombres. Also, all of these mediums give me a lot of artistic freedom. So I’m like a brat, with a lot of slackness and freedom to work on the subjects that amuse me—black humor and the absurd, the dirty and the offensive, the acid. It’s hard for me to think in terms of work because I have a lot of fun.
Hanging out with my dad in the Spanish architecture section of the Rosedal.
A box of kittens we found while walking past the Botanic Garden. We gave them water, cleaned them up and then sent them to a transitory home.
Carlos Gardel's grave in the Chacarita Cemetery
Indoor tombs at Chacarita Cemetery. It sort of reminds me of a gigantic apartment complex.
Some weird "sea egg" I found in Punta del Este and then spent 20 min throwing rocks at it to try and burst it. No luck. I suck at throwing rocks.
My little sister hanging out with cats in the Botanic Garden.