Showing posts with label Lucas Varela. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Lucas Varela. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Interview with Lucas Varela, now in English!

So I finally translated the interview with Lucas Varela into English. As you read this, please remember that I have NEVER taken a translation class and that I was an economics major at college. If the translation is choppy and weird, that is probably the reason. I received some help translating the Argentine slang from my friend Santiago.

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Claire D-S: How did you start making comics?

Lucas Varela: I started in the underground in the 90’s, before the Internet existed. This moment was the high point of the underground or the independent comics scene. There were a lot of comics. There wasn’t, however, a professional space. It was very difficult to develop professionally because all the magazines and publishers were closing. It was the end of an era. There were only independent magazines. This is when I began Kapop, my self-edited magazine.


CDS: Did someone invite you to participate in the underground movement?

LV: It went like this: a professional youngster went with his portfolio to underground comics events and showed it to the first person who would look at it. I went to one of these events with my amateur, embarrassing comics and people at a magazine called Poco Loco liked my work. I began to publish there immediately. After wandering through various underground magazines, I decided to self-publish a magazine with Robert Barriero, a good friend and writer. The magazine was called Kapop and had a run of six issues. A little bit later, with a more developed hand, I approached Carlos Trillo and began my professional career around 2000.


CDS: How did you meet each other?

LV: We found out that he liked Kapop and went to visit him in his studio one day. Trillo was a really open-minded, easygoing, and friendly. We got along well and subsequently created The Scarlet Horn, our first project together.


CDS: You do illustration, but for what magazines? How many illustrations do you do a week?

LV: I work for an agency with many talented illustrators called “Dutch Uncle” in London. It’s nice working with them because I can avoid interacting with editors and clients. I think this is the best possible option. They mainly give me work from magazines, newspapers like The Guardian, and Gulf Life, a magazine for an airline in the Persian Gulf. Weird things. It’s comfortable working with them.


CDS: What’s the process you go through to receive an order?

LV: They tell me, “I have this to illustrate. You can do it.” Generally, they give me from two weeks to a month to do an illustration. I contently take all that they throw at me. Because they are English, they greatly enjoy the touch of dark humor that I add in my drawings. I think that I am returning a bit of what I learned from English comedians. “Monty Python” was a great influence.


CDS: How did you begin to work with them?

LV: All through email. I got their contact information from Christian Montenegro, an argentine illustrator that worked with them. I wrote them and they didn’t respond for six months. Suddenly, they requested an illustration because they needed something in “comic style.” That’s how I hooked them. The idea of “comic style” is very curious. I don’t think there is a comic style. Comics have so many styles that are so different that it is impossible to bring them together in one. There is something in society’s mindset that the comic has a particular style—happy, dynamic, and colorful. But it’s not like that. Later they saw that I had a wide range of styles and began to give me more work.


CDS: How many offers do you accept per week?

LV: I draw a weekly illustration for the newspaper Financial Times and will do another if I have enough time. There are weeks where I only do the illustration for the Financial Times and nothing else. It depends.


CDS: Can you survive on just a few drawings a week?

LV: I made more money working at Clarín, like a slave, doing layout. Going to work every day from this hour to that hour. But I got tired, I got burnt out. I worked like that for six years. I really wanted to draw. The thing I took away from working at a newspaper was the practice and the speed that you get from working like that. You have to resolve everything immediately.


CDS: What is the publishing process like for comics?

LV: Publishing is very complicated. Especially here because the editors are very dishonest. They don’t pay you or report earnings. You have to be careful to avoid the crooks. I published with a few like Moebius that, if they are a small publishing company, are pretty cool. One of the valued I look for when I work with a small publishing company are good vibes. They published Matabicho. But my previous book, Estupefacto, was published by a fraudulent company that never reported my earnings. It was a disaster. It ended up on sale. In Spain, Paolo Pinocchio was just published by the publishing house Dibbuks. They are pretty serious and generate much trust. They had previously published The Coronel’s Heritage, the Spanish name for The Gustavino Syndrome [the Argentine title]. I hope that they do well with the book. Then there’s the Fierro. It’s good to publish in the Fierro. The comics that are published there have a lot of repercussion because the people all over the country see it. They pay a minimal amount, but I take it as one more entrance to publishing comics. We did this with The Gustavino Syndrome. First it was published in the Fierro and then it was published as a book. That’s how you manage to alleviate the huge effort it takes to create a comic.

In Argentina there aren’t many places to publish comics. Generally you manage to assemble a network where you more or less know everyone that publishes, but it’s very limited. Then, internationally I don’t have many doors open. Now you begin the publishing process in the Fierro and afterwards see which publishing companies want to publish the material that’s already been created. There are also the newspapers that very rarely offer space for comics. I published a page in La Nación’s Sunday magazine for one year and then published in Clarin’s Viva magazine for another. But I got burnt out after awhile.


Thursday, June 2, 2011

Paintings and Personajes

Lucas Varela, it turns out, is not only an illustrator, but a painter as well. He has been painting for years and, coincidentally, had a gallery show with artist Mariano Vior* the day after our interview. During the interview, he told me that he was a better illustrator than painter, and joked that he purchased six cases of wine to make the audience more partial to the paintings. I imagine that the transition between illustration and painting must be difficult. The creation process is entirely different, transformed by new materials, ways of holding your body, and distinctive methods of telling a story. And then, there’s the question of overlap: do you bring your favorite characters with you to the new medium or do you create new ones? Varela’s paintings featured a fascinating mix of creatures.

Una Aflicción (An affliction)

Bobas en Disputa (Arguing Fools)

The bobas (fools) are a new addition to Varela’s repertoire. Their pained, aggressive positions are terrifying. “The Affliction” is equally frightening. After looking at these paintings, I want to know more about these women. Varela’s ability to arouse the viewer’s curiosity is indicative of his skill as an artist and narrator.

Gusano 1 (Worm 1)

La congoja (The Anguished One), Gusano 2 (Worm 2),

Jóven yaciente (Young person lying down)

Varela brought the worms from his comics to canvas. In an open interview for Fierro magazine, a reader asked, “Why do you draw strange worms everywhere?” Varela responded, “You’ll get to meet these worms that I draw. They are the worms that are going to eat you when you die.”

(A brief aside: I sent the link to "Worm 1" to my sister Grace. She apparently hates worms, and the sight of one vomiting almost made her sick. A few minutes later, I forgot all about our conversation and sent her a comic with worms in it. I am probably the worst older sister ever.)

Sans Jorge (Without George)


Saint George Killing the Dragon (1430-5) by Bernat Martorell

“San Jorge” attracted my attention because I saw “Saint George Killing the Dragon” (1430-5) at the Art Institute of Chicago. The Martorell painting puts the small dragon in an inferior position at the bottom of the painting, focusing all the attention on Saint George in the middle. Varela’s rendition of this classic story, in contrast, shows only the dragon’s death, not the hero or his brave deed, thus the name "Without George." Depicting the gory and solitary death of the dragon causes the viewer to feel connected to the monster and reinvents the story by taking the underdog’s point of view.

Varela and Vior's paintings are exhibited in La Serpa, a gallery on Julián Alvarez 425. As you can probably guess from this post, I highly recommend going.

*Mariano Vior is an incredible artist. I did not write about him in this post, because I wanted to focus on Varela's paintings. But you should check out Vior's blog to see his paintings and drawings.

Pictures taken by Lucas Varela

Wednesday, June 1, 2011

Interview with Lucas Varela


Lucas Varela, in front of a few of the many bookshelves he has filled with comics

As I’ve mentioned quite a few times on this blog, Lucas Varela is one of my favorite artists. I read “Paolo Pinocchio” in the Fierro when I was studying abroad here in 2009 and Estupefacto was one of the first comics I bought when I returned this year. So, although we now know each other, I was pretty excited for the interview.

In terms of interview questions, I am still trying to find the perfect set that reveal the daily decisions artists face. I have five pages of questions ranging from basic (where do you live?) to personal questions (are you married?). Leading up to the interview, I was a bit nervous because it was my second interview, but then Lucas handed me a beer and I realized we were just going to have a conversation…a taped conversation.

Lucas began the interview by claiming that he didn’t talk much, but the interview ended up lasting almost two hours. Although I have almost finished a full transcription of this interview, I won’t be posting all of it just yet. And I am going to leave the interviews in Spanish. Transcribing is a soul-sucking job, so translation to English would probably kill me. During the interview, we covered multiple topics including his childhood, plans for retirement, upcoming trip to France, and life goals. The excerpts from the interview below deal with Varela’s involvement in the comics underground in the 90’s, his work as an illustrator, and his experiences with publishing.

Anyway, this is part of the beginning of the interview.



CDS: ¿Cómo empezaste a hacer comics?

LV: Comencé en el under, en los años 90, cuando no había Internet todavía. Ese momento era el auge de las revistas under o independientes de historieta. Había una cantidad enorme. Lo que no había era espacio profesional. Era muy difícil desarrollarse profesionalmente porque estaban cerrando todas las revistas y editoriales. Estaba terminando una época. Solo había revistas independientes. Ahí es cuando comencé con mi emprendimiento autoeditado, llamado Kapop.

CDS: ¿Cómo fue tu ingreso en el movimiento under?

LV: Fue así: el profesional jovenzuelo iba con su carpeta a los eventos de revistas under y la mostraba al primero que podía. Yo fui a uno de esos eventos con mis historietas amateur muy feas, que hoy me da vergüenza mostrar, y a los de una revista que se llamaba "Poco Loco" les gustó mi trabajo. En seguida empecé a publicar ahí. Después de deambular en varias revistas under, decidimos hacer nuestra propia revista junto a Roberto Barreiro, un gran amigo y guionista. La revista se llamó Kapop y tuvo una extensión de seis números. Un poco más tarde, ya con la mano más ágil, me acerqué a Carlos Trillo y ahí comencé mi carrera más profesional, alrededor del 2000.

CDS: ¿Y ustedes, como se conocieron?

LV: Nos enteramos de que a él le gustaba la revista Kapop y un día fuimos a visitarlo a su estudio. Trillo era una persona muy abierta, muy fácil de tratar, muy ameno. Así que pegamos buena onda y enseguida empezamos hacer nuestro primer proyecto llamado "El Cuerno Escarlata".

CDS: Haces ilustración, pero ¿para cuales revistas y cuantas ilustraciones hacés por semana?

LV: Trabajo para una agencia de ilustradores muy buena que se llama "Dutch Uncle" que está en Londres. Es buenísimo trabajar para ellos porque me evito hablar con editores y clientes. Creo que es el modo ideal. Ellos me pasan trabajos sobre todo para el mundo editorial. Revistas, diarios como The Guardian, para Gulf Life, que es una revista para una compañía aérea del Golfo Persico. Cosas rarísimas. Es cómodo trabajar con ellos.

CDS: ¿Cómo es el proceso de recibir un pedido?

LV: [Me dicen] “Lo podés hacer. Tengo esto para ilustrar.” Generalmente me dan de una semana a dos días para hacerlo. Yo contentísimo agarro todo lo que me tiran. Al parecer los clientes ingleses se divierten mucho con la pizca de humor negro que agrego en mis dibujos. Yo creo que estoy devolviendo lo que me enseñaron los cómicos ingleses "Monthy Python", gran influencia para mi.

CDS: ¿Cómo empezaste a trabajar con ellos?

LV: Todo por mail. Me pasó el contacto un dibujante argentino que trabaja con ellos que se llama Cristian Montenegro. Les escribí y no me llamaron por seis meses. Luego, de golpe me pidieron un dibujo porque necesitaban un estilo comic. Por ahí los enganché. Esto del estilo comic es muy curioso. Yo creo que no hay un estilo comic. El comic tiene tantos estilos y tan diferentes que es imposible unificarlo. Hay algo en el imaginario social que el comic tiene un estilo particular, como alegre, dinámico y colorido. Pero no es así. Después vieron que yo tenía un amplio abanico de estilos y posibilidades y empezaron a darme más trabajos.

CDS: ¿Cuántos pedidos aceptas cada semana?

LV: Hago una sección fija para el diario Financial Times cada semana y después hago alguna que otra más con tiempo. Hay semanas que solo hago el dibujo para Financial Times y no otra cosa. Depende.

CDS: ¿Puedes sobrevivir viviendo así?

LV: Ganaba más plata trabajando en Clarín, de esclavo, haciendo infografías. Yendo a la redacción todos los días, de tal hora a tal hora. Pero me cansé, me quemé la cabeza. Yo quería dibujar. Estuve seis años así. Lo que rescato de trabajar en un periódico es la práctica y la velocidad que te da. Allí hay que resolver todo inmediatamente.

CDS: ¿Cómo es el proceso de publicar historietas?

LV: Es muy complicado publicar. Sobre todo acá, porque los editores son muy deshonestos. No te pagan, no te rinden. Hay que tener cuidado con los chantas. Yo publiqué con algunos como Moebuis que, si bien es una editorial muy pequeña, son muy copados. Y uno de los valores que rescato cuando me comprometo con un editor chico es la buena onda. Ellos me editaron Matabicho. Pero Estupefacto, el libro anterior, lo editó un editor muy pirata que nunca rindió cuentas. Un desastre. Terminó en las mesas de saldo. Ahora en España acaba de salir el libro de Paolo Pinocchio, con la editorial Dibbuks, que es bastante seria y me genera mucha confianza. Ellos ya habían editado "La Herencia del Coronel", que es el nombre en España de "El Síndrome Guastavino". Espero que les vaya bien con el libro.

Después está la Fierro. Está bueno editar en la Fierro. Tiene mucha repercusión todo lo que allí sale. La gente de todo el país lo ve. Pagan lo mínimo, pero lo tomo como una entrada más de la historieta. Con Gustavino hicimos eso. Primero salió en Fierro y después salió en libro. Así se va amortizando un poco el enorme esfuerzo que es hacer una historieta.

En la Argentina no hay muchas lugares para publicar historietas. Generalmente se arma un circuito donde más o menos se conocen todos, pero es muy limitado. Después, internacionalmente no tengo muchas puertas abiertas. Por ahora el proceso es publicar en el Fierro y después ver que editores quieren publicar el material ya hecho. También están los diarios, que muy de vez en cuando ofrecen un espacio. Yo publiqué durante un año una página en la revista dominical de La Nación y después un año en la revista Viva de Clarín. Pero se me va quemando la cabeza después de un tiempo.

Monday, March 7, 2011

Estupefacto

Within my first day in Argentina I bought $40 worth of comics. When I told my friend Anna, she replied "If you hadn't purchased any comics within 48 hours of your arrival in ANY place, I'd be worried. If there is one thing that you most definitely are, it's a comics hoarder." I plan to die buried underneath all my comics, so I obviously need to start buying now.

I walked down Corrientes, a street known for its abundance of bookstores. Librería Diogenes on Corrientes and Callao is my absolute favorite because they have a large selection of discount comics. Obviously, these comics aren't the best quality. Some are printed on newsprint while others are bound with cheap paper covers. I've read three of the seven comics, so far. My favorite is Estupefacto by Lucas Varela.

Carlos Trillo begins the prologue to Estupefacto by saying "We call someone crazy if they don't think like the rest of us. And Varela doesn't think like me. Or like anyone else, it seems." Varela has a morbid sense of humor and a litany of amoral, repulsive characters. Paolo Pinoccio, a lecherous wooden marienette, takes great pleasure in tricking other fairy tale characters. Most often, he dies and goes to hell, always managing to escape through some intricate plot. Estupefacto features a number of short comics. "Ese Placer de Morir" tells the story of a rabbit who dies, goes to heaven, comes back to earth when saved by doctors, kills himself so he can return to heaven, and ends up in hell. "Scatter: Un Amor de Mono," probably one of the more ridiculous comics, deals with a relationship and eventual marriage between Elvis and a satanic monkey. These stories are as ridiculous as they are terrifying. Varlela's true strength lies in his artwork. All of his stories have a dominant color pallette. "Scatter" is drawn in orange, red, and white, while "El placer de morir" uses blue and purple. The color scheme give a distinct feeling to each comic, allowing Varela to give the impression that each comic happens in a different world.